The independence trap for girls

I recently realized a trap that many modern women are destroyed by: the illusion of independence.

 

I have known a few really cool young girls(18-21ish) who are what you would consider catches: kind, feminine, likes to cook, good with animals, likes outdoors, easy to please and so on.

Every one of them went to college and got destroyed.  It’d be easy to blame feminism, so I will partly, but the reality is our culture tells girls that they can go it alone and they are better for it, and that it is guys who are dragging them down.

Of course most girls cant go it alone.  One girl I knew had like 100k from some settlement she was in, and she doesn’t buy better blankets because ‘they are expensive’ and keep in mind she is smarter than most.  Regardless, a vast majority arent going to make it without suffering alot.

So they suffer, and they get angry, then they look for someone to blame.  Culture tells them guys, so they blame them.

They were set into a trap they couldn’t win, and when they lost they perpetuate the problem.  Seen it before.  Sad.

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New crop of females aint looking so good

I don’t have internet much, which is actually really nice, my productivity has spiked, and I am sitting at macodonardos poaching their internet and there is a high school/college track meet over the road.  I walked over to see if there were any hot girls, and there were a few, but I was surprised these were RUNNERS and most of them had a bit of pork on them, having some serious lordosis going on as well.

I was surprised by how bitchy they were too.  There was a group of girls taunting people as they walked by, as I walked by she slapped her legs and said something about ‘come ‘er boy!’ I am not sure she was talking to me but I was the closest, one of the others said ‘i thought you were going to hit him’.  They were not particularly hot, but as I looked at them, and the vast majority of the males around me with earrings, and tattoos it was very hard to not think I was witnessing the late stages of collapse of our society.

Guys raised to be thugs, and girls impolite fat whores, hard to believe the ‘good white picket fence family’ of the 60s was not that far back.

Normally this age range of 18-21 is supposed to be the hottest a girl is, and when I saw these I was not impressed.  Some were outright fat, but a lot had about 10 pounds to lose, and these were the athletic ones, a lot of them didn’t even look like with the weight lose they would be good.

How can a society last long when the replacement generations are even more deranged than the prior ones, and this shit only gets worse?

The White Knight Deception

Loyalty.  A word that is an important tie that binds men together, read that word again ‘loyalty’…it is what makes men value each other as men…and exactly how modern women eviserate white knights.

Men have valued loyalty (with it: honor, duty, shared sacrafice) as traits that help the

wk want to show how ‘loyal’ they are to girl, expecting reward, and only get used, its based on prior loyalty to men

Loyalty. A word that is an important tie that binds men together, read that word again ‘loyalty’…it is what makes men value each other as men…and exactly how modern women eviscerate white knights. Let me fully qualify that I once held a lot of these beliefs and can talk definitively.

Men have valued loyalty (with it: honor, duty, shared sacrifice) as traits that help the tribe live. If you are going into battle and your fellow man tells you he will be there, it is better for you if he actually shows up. With it, things like cowardice are punishable traits between men. Why should you spend or share resources with a man who does not have your back, not contributing to survival?

For a long time these were still used by society, in that a man’s loyalty and duty – to a woman in marriage now – was rewarded by a faithful wife who stayed married to him and gave him kids. The deal was essentially this: the guy can get the girl while she is hot, young, fertile, and he keeps her now, but also supports her when she is older and uglier.   THAT was the deal, it of course relied on males loyalty, because he could promise anything, then dump her fat carcass, but it rarely happened – both because of male’s loyalty, and society looked down on it, as ‘not loyal’ ‘not a real man’ etc.

Now, fast forward to New World Disorder, where down is up and you have to ask a girl if you can kiss her otherwise get hit with ‘rape’. The dutiful, unquestioning nature of the white knight male was always prone to be taken advantage of, but it was a societal contract that both sides upheld, now however generally only the women got the memo the contract was null. Their traits which were once useful, and got the hot young girl who he carries into old age, now only gets the post-wall female.

Among the issues, is because white knights assume females to be the virginal quality the contract once promised, it is beyond their ability to comprehend that girls are deprave. That they have absolutely zero qualms about hoping between relationships, cheating, or nearly anything that would enrage guys, if it was a guy to guy event. I myself never really believed girls were like this, that they would cheat, that they wanted the dick at extreme levels, that they wanted to be choked either by hand or by cock, that girls when turned on would solicit anal sex, that wifes would suck random guys dicks…of course I found it all to be true, both by others experience and especially my own.

The first stage is the continuation of the ‘feminine mystique’ of how mysterious they are, how virginal they are etc, its played up huge, and not the reality at all.   Next is playing up the dutiful aspect. This is perhaps the most disgusting part of it, where the loyalty the WK once had to his former-hot wife, the loyalty is used against him, in that a ‘real man’ would support this single mom. Or a ‘real man’ would give this cock-pounded 35 year old with her MBA a chance at love because she has outgrown her past.

You see it all the time, the supposed heroism of those brave single moms, with the implicit assumption of the loser sperm donor male nowhere to be found – and the purposeful denial of questioning what exactly was that women doing with a guy like that. That every girl is young and –don’t call her dumb- …experimenting…and what real male could blame her for wanting to be pounded in her ass and mouth at the same time, she was just drunk and in college, all her friends were doing it too.

The male is the only one capable of forgiveness, and his loyalty is coopted. The girl telling him how sorry she is evokes past memories of males once looking for forgiveness, and rarely was it ever a deception, as a fraud would simply be killed or be run out of the tribe. There is no feedback loop now, she they girls falls on his mercy, and he accepts her, after all she would ‘never do it again’.

The irony we will leave on, is that maybe she never really does it again, but he still got a fat 30+ year old that others enjoyed hotter, tighter and for free; but more than likely, she will just cheat or leave, after all women with a college degree initiate divorce over 90% of the time.

Don't be coopted by a distorted female narrative

Don’t be coopted by a distorted female narrative

Some parting thoughts

There are a few things I want to make sure are said, I want to be clear and have zero equivocation, also I held back from writing this because of its emotionally charged nature, and of some very non-pc things that are going to be said.  I was scared people might not like me, or that some other bad thing would occur, but I am tired of it hanging on my mind, and I going to talk freely.  As always, look it up yourself. Don’t take my word for it, truth does not need to hide in locution or bar its followers from looking elsewhere. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF.

I got a notice that it was my 2 year anniversary on word press, my blog was shorter lived, as I got the name and commented for about 6 months before launching, but regardless, the 2 years ago EK was a bold work in progress cutting through the illusions of my 20s. Take the EK of 3 years ago and I wonder how much of the things I am about to say I would be like ‘who the hell is this?’

I have a ‘friend’ (Truthfully I have lost a lot of my old friends, they are stuck in the same juvenile mindset that most never escape from their whole life) who recently claimed that he would be a catholic regardless of what country he was born in. A pretty stupendously naive statement, that the ‘truth’ you were born into is the actual truth. Its like saying the local football team is the team you would have come to support regardless of where you are born, it defies even the most basic of self-examination. Most people never question this ‘born truth’, and it serves them fine. There is a reason nearly EVERY manosphere guy had a ‘red pill moment’ and that’s because our society is so incredibly indoctrinated, quite the opposite of the ‘freedom’ we believe we live under, that it takes something to shake us to our core. To a lot of guys it may be divorce, or nice guy attitudes being unsuccessful, to me it was that girls will manipulate and use you under the guise of love.

Did you know every major empire (over twenty of them, like the Macedonians, Romans, UK, etc) has gone through nearly the exact same pattern, the US isn’t nearly as unique as we would like to believe, it was the brave frontier/people conquering, the rise to power, the eminence, then the decline which education/social programs/women’s rights/ etc become to the forefront as money became more important than honor. Yes, ‘feminism’ has happened before, Rome, Arab, etc, all at the end of their empire thought they were at their most advanced, as the decadence flourishes as the empire dies.  http://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf This is a great read about what I just said.

I raged against feminism, it was an easy target for my clearing eyes: it empowered these women who fucked so many of my comrades and myself. Now let me be clear, I have a sister and my mom of which I am both fairly close with, so growing up I was a ‘female supporter’ as my sister was smarted than more guys, as tough etc. ‘Why would men criticize women?’ The major difference was that I think even in my young mind I subscribed to a merit-based model, where you were judged on your deeds, not your sex ie. you either can pass the physical test or you can’t, there is no changing it and you get no accolades passing it as a women.

I maintained a lot of my ‘liberal’ ideologies (and I still maintain a few, like I am a pro-government supporter in that I think there should be a strong national government if we are not going to go with a Confederacy as espoused by Paine) but chinks in the armor developed. So many talked about HBD human-bio-diversity, about how race was real. When my mind was allowed to actually objectively look at the facts it was quite clear. Again from my anecdotal evidence it seemed pretty obvious that blacks in general could run faster but I never met one who I was even convinced possessed beyond an average intellect, but I wasn’t ‘supposed’ to say or think that. Just like I wasn’t supposed to think women had the power, but it was obvious to me they did once I got beyond the illusions.

I think this was a reason I lost a lot of friends, they were plugged into the same stupid shit of ‘Democrat vs Republican’ and arguing if companies should pay for birth control, or if the US should help in Ukraine. How the hell could they understand when I was telling them of the illusion they lived in, the slave existence we are conditioned to accept, or even to tell them simply realities that the laws are pro-women when I get accused of ‘hating women’ or being ‘unsuccessful’ with women! It was pure lunacy mind you, because I had never been more successful with them then when I accepted the harsh truth over the pretty lies. The evidence was stacking up so fast, both in theory and in practice. I saw my friends routinely taken advantage of by women, I’d call exactly what happens to them a few months before it happens, get called ‘angry at women’ and then when my friend get dumped or left or whatever they are confused why it happened. They don’t learn. I have had increasingly little patience with that. I have had a trend I stick with that I always am the last one to respond to a person (not in the gotta-have-the-last-word way but that I will reach out if I haven’t heard in a while) but it takes two to tango and some numbers that remain silent actually are preferred than pretending we have some similarities when our beliefs have completely diverged.

Feminism was the crack a lot of other sacred truths came crashing down. I can legitimately say I was not ‘racist’ at all growing up, the belief seemed bigoted and wrong. It was cultural I completely understand now. When I looked at the facts how could I not come to the obvious conclusion of the near R vs K selection that was occurring in our species? I hold what might be called ‘racist’ beliefs, I think southern hemisphere people are inferior intellectually, and there is a reason there is not a single black ’empire’ of note in history. But I don’t hate blacks, etc, they are just pawns in a large game we are all part of.

A big thing was the realization of this vast complex of victimization, where everyone except white males was apparently so fucked up by a history of white dominance that everyone now needed bonuses. Victims were EVERYWHERE, you had women, blacks, jews, homos, all of them saying how evil the white man was, and then these endless liberal white men agreeing how bad they were, and they will take their pegging at your disenfranchised leisure.

Either you are equal, so you don’t need an advantage, or you are inferior and you need an advantage to make it competitive, despite what feminists and NAACP says, evidence shows you need the advantage. http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/04/medical-school-acceptance-rates-for-2010-2012-reflect-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics/ This is a perfect example where medical school scores are nearly meaningless and simply being black is enough to get in.

I long knew there were forces in control beyond just the president, I was a huge alex jones fan for a while, convinced that 2012 it was on, that the ‘nazis’ were taking over. But my better judgment prevailed and thoughts of ‘why hasn’t this happened yet…he sure is a fear monger’ helped me move past. I came to see that what we actually faced was a monolithic force that the media intentionally hides from us: jewish elite control, now before your mind ‘slides’ off the topic (a CIA term about how we are programmed to automatically discard arguments we dont agree with) did you know that Feminism was nearly entirely jewish? (http://www.truthinourtime.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1399051555535.jpg) Yes, that is right. Jews took down the Romanov family and started perhaps the bloodiest murder of people starting with the Bolshevik revolution, the supposed ‘holocaust’ with even the upper end of 6 million PALES in comparison to the millions upon millions killed by jewish communists just within their own country, not including all the other blood on their hands.

These things were painful for me to swallow at first, ‘but the jews…but the women!’ my child mind said, these were the victims! But fact after fact slowly ground down the old illusions. Here is something to chew on, obviously a site like this has a potential axe to grind, but consider the facts for what they are: http://www.dailystormer.com/comprehensive-lists-of-the-jews-who-dominate-us/ that in nearly every power center the <2% race occupies a 900%-3000%+ OVER-representation of the owners and CEOs of these. Guess its that good work ethic…wait why arent the chinese on that list then?

Why for example was germany so ‘evil in ww2 when it was the Treaty of Versailles that economically strangled the Weimar Republic? Did they do anything any brave people would not have when so obviously playing a game rigged against them? Now before any starts crying about ‘evil nazis’ or poor jews or whatever, LOOK AT THE FACTS YOURSELF, both my grand fathers fought in the war on the USA side, I get it. We can’t believe we in fact might have been duped or we might have been the ‘bad guys’. Henry Ford wanted to support germany. General Patton expressed dismay about beating the germans but the true enemy of the communist jews: ‘we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!’ (http://www.rense.com/general85/pats.htm <good site covering this American hero and his ‘wrong’ beliefs)

My learning extended to relativism, the idea that ‘anything goes’ and no one is right. This is the perfect anarchy belief, because then there is no unified force that can challenge the established power structures. Why do you think libertarianism is pushed so hard right now as ‘intellectual’? Its all to trap people that would otherwise actually challenge the system. I found that relativism was in fact a direct plan of the Frankfurt school booted out of german and their goal was ‘cultural marxism’. (Two good reads on this: http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=8183 and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/823368/posts ) I had heard this term before but that it was just some meaningless slander like ‘commi’, but no, it is very real, the idea to have all this infighting and ‘anything goes’ attitude to bring decadence, nihilism and eventually chaos to the host country the parasite had found itself in. Sounds like an apt description of America.

I did a lot of research on the Founding Fathers, finding out they were not unified in their plans at all. You had people like Madison and Hamilton that seemed like nothing more than a precursor to the corporate stooge, you had people like Paine who despite being essentially the founder of ‘libertarianism’ is disavowed by many libertarians for too controversial beliefs. Paine espoused a Confederacy of a mutual defense pact and strong state rights. Our early history is not clean or pure, but there was a lot to learn there, like for example the tired attempts of establishing central banks to saddle us with debt. Jefferson: ‘If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations which grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered’ Later we have great heroes like Jackson who claimed his greatest accomplishment was ‘I killed the bank’ in regard to a central bank.

We follow this pattern into World War 1, where America wanted to stay isolationist, or sided with the Germans, and Wilson establishes the Fed reserve to finance the war, and the sinking of the Listunia happens in may 1915, they try to drum the war, but only once the fed is fully operational do the resurrect the sinking as ‘reason’ to go to war…over two years later. The media kicks into overdrive and suddenly the sinking is an evil that must be punished.

Anyway, I wrote a lot here, most of it likely challenging, hope you read this far instead of ‘racist idiot’ and clicked back. I was the naive, love-everyone liberal who had one fatal flaw of questioning what I was told. Of looking when stuff just didn’t make sense. First it started with feminism but spiraled into so much other stuff, yet was so connected in the end. The suppression of white males, the endless debt we are saddled with, the endless re-write of history, and anyone who speaks about the evil the government does, jews, women etc do it some ignorant racist.

There are some tough questions here, but if you are on the search for truth…no matter the cost – there are some walls you are going have to break down in your mind. If you want to call me racist, ignorant, angry and unsuccessful with women, go right ahead, its so much easier for your mind. But if you care at all, read some things that challenge ‘truth’ because what is so great about it, is truth doesn’t change if you look at something wrong. I wasn’t born with these ideas, I didn’t even start with them, but they are what I have found when I pursued some non-approved learning, challenge yourself a bit, and maybe I will see you on the other side where we have abandoned our illusions and only truth and reality remain.

EK out.

The End

I have not written in a while, but I have also been giving this some thought for a while.  When I created this blog it was in a purpose that I was after truth, and that I would share my experience with others, and perhaps come to some mutual truths.  Also a large part of it was cathartic in nature, raging at the injustice males find our selves in, and the uphill battle we endlessly face.

For the catharsis, it has been mostly successful, I was a much more angry man about a year and a half ago than now, not to say I have lost the ardor of injustice we bear, but that I simple yelled, strut and fret my hour upon the stage. ‘And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.’

A dark truth I realized, was blogging is not an effective medium for truth, in fact it is similar to other ‘social media’ meaning utterly useless because it is co-opted into ego gratification.

Blogging for the most part is a huge circle jerk / dick suck.

It really is.

A major problem is the medium, to stay ‘relevant’ you must constantly have new/novelty and you must direct traffic.  The first leads to shit posts and/or repetitions.  The 2nd leads to the debasement of any quality of medium.  You have people ‘liking’ your posts who you never see again, and just want a counter ‘like’, you have people follow you (who follow thousands) who just want a follow, you have 1 word commentors who want a comment back etc.  Ultimately it also devolves into this ‘well heres what I say today!  lets go see what a,b,c say today,’ and it turns into this little circle of mutual dick sucking.  Truth has long since expired as the purpose, and regardless of stated intentions, it becomes about ego gratification, hoping people ‘like’ you, and you’ll jack off a few people along the way as long as you yourself get it in return.

I really admired a guy who had a blog ‘solve my girl problems’ he got to the point, had inspiring posts, etc.  But he kind of fell into the trap a lot do where your posts get less relevant, more repetitious, you start caring about image instead of purpose etc.  I think he realized that and folded up.  For that reason I view him with more respect than so-called big names like ‘cheateau hertiste’ and ‘rationale male’ both who I used to like, but it really becomes an endless ‘same old shit’ syndrome.

CH is really bad, being the big shot, his comments demonstrate the endless dick suck blogging at its heart is, you have the placaters who dote on every article, you have the one-worders who just want traffic, you have the females fishing for attention (and talk about fucking irony!  those males are supposed to ‘get it’ yet they fall into the traps the girls lay for them.  ‘OMG!  a girl I must respond maybe she will suck my dick!), you have the decent posters who eventually realize the medium is shit and stop posting and move on, etc.

Another major problem is girls ‘win’ on blogging in general, you have a lot of so-called females who post whatever, and really the quality doesnt matter, I have seen greater quality at far less successful blogs such as Emperor Lubu’s.  If I was going for pure success (and perhaps my utilitarian mind should have considered it) I should have be Erudite Princess or something (quick aside, I actually had some blogger named Erudite Princess contact me a few months ago!) because I’d have far more success as a ‘novel’ female bitching about the exact same things.

For example, another thing looking back I had a huge problem with was the blogger ‘Judgy Bitch’ she has actually risen to pretty prominent ‘success’, oh she is so ‘novel’ a girl who ‘gets it’.  Whatever.  I actually was friends with her early, we both started about the same time, I was one of her few early commentators (can check if my claims need validation).  For months we languished in obscurity together, like all my original blog friends I asked if she wanted to exchange blog rolls, and she said yes like everyone else.  Well her link went up here, and wth…why isnt mine on hers?  I asked her about it ‘oh ill get it up’.  Ok.  Long story short, months later and a few reminders and it never happened.  After a while you just have to realize people lie and are not someone you can count on.  She let success get to her, and in the process forgot the ‘little people’ who started with her.  I hate her now, we started together and because success found her, freely cast those around her to the side.

The major prolem is like much of life, quality does not equal success.  As mentioned a lot of the people on my blog roll write some pretty good things, and they have very little readership.  Then you have these others (typically girls) who post pictures of their day and have 100 comments per picture, the fact such behavior is rewarded is disturbing.

Because I am not on twitter, facebook etc, I never will be successful, that is the reality.  Why do you think CH etc has a twitter feed?  It is to keep our ADD society addicted to little blips of attention.

I am actually near 200 posts, I may or may not continue, but the lack of comments on the last couple of long posts make it seem less likely.  At this point I write only to help others, as the purpose of what I did for myself has been accomplished.  I have left old illusions behind, and healed past wounds.  If I am not helping others there is no reason to continue.

Anyway, any of my readers that have been loyal, but not commented, I hope my blog has been useful to you.  This is not the official end necessairly, but if it is, thanks for reading and I hope it helped.

Feminist = ‘Empowered’ = ‘Independent’

What is notably is that there are few women who openly describe themselves as feminists, despite that disease infecting likely 80% of the women, and at least 30% of the males. However, that does not stop them from supporting, or especially taking advantage of the feminist movement. You call always tell the feminists at heart when the use the words ‘empowered’ or ‘independent’ to describe themselves. For all intents when I use ‘feminist’ I am also referring to their new monikers they now go by: liberated/empowered/independent etc

Feminism has largely been successful for a few reasons:

1 it has embraced an ever-present victim methodology in a society afraid to stand for real values,

2 it has given an excuse to women who preform subpar but can hand out laurels to the winners,

3 and has allowed double-think to be normalized.

It typically takes something that shakes a person to their core to even have the potential to question the doctrine they are fed their whole life, so for a majority of men and women the standard narrative they are fed is that ‘women have been enslaved for eons, and only now are we getting out of the dark ages and we still have much work to go, because women have so much catching up to do’.

I put my ego out there a lot on this site as an example others can learn from, and indeed when I was younger, even early 20s, I BELIEVED THIS LIE. Oh, those poor women surrounded by brutes…they needed protection and uplifting to make up for all the past crimes. Needless to say there is a lot of self flagellation going on here as a male. That first of all, there WERE crimes that needed making up, and second, it was my and every males duty to repent.

Men can’t be strong, because then you might rape a women. You can only be strong if you swear to defend a women from other rapists. You can’t be aggressive, well…ever. You can’t yell, you can’t use logic because someone’s feelings may get hurt. However, this has not been applied universally, because the girl that goes to the gym is ‘empowered’, the girl who has an apartment is ‘independent’.

What this has done is anyone women who isn’t successful, well that’s because the odds were against her, that damn patriarchy we live in, men keeping her down, not giving her a chance, not being fair, all these you hear. But then women who achieve even mediocre success are paraded around as if they were the first ones that had gone to the moon and just got back. She works a job and has her own apartment, by god, she’s INDEPENDENT! She left some guy who went over to Iraq and is with some new biker trash? She’s not a treacherous slut, she’s EMPOWERED.

Its like we are treating them like kids, if I was a women I would find such a low bar insulting. But it is not insulting, it literally is a badge of honor, a guy could find a cure for cancer and no one gives a shit, but some girl recently gets promoted to assistant secretary of child psychology and bought a fancy new Honda, goddamn folks we got ourselves a gen-u-ine he-rooo in our midst!

Lastly is the double think that is allowed and encouraged. Let us take the duke student who stars in porns to pay tuition. Now, nearly no one is criticizing her (because you can’t critic a women) regardless of any side of an argument. Imagine a newly similar situation where there was a male PAYING women to make orgy porns and then selling these videos at a profit to ‘pay his way through school’, he would be castrated in the media. But because she is a poor victim, she can choke that dick down and we are supposed to only feel sorry she is forced into this by this cruel world.

Porn and sex has long been a useful doublethink subject for women, on one hand they can decry the objectification of women, treating them as sex objects, etc, but on the other hand USE that to manipulate men. I personally saw this all the time at college, these raging feminists decrying that clothing doesn’t provoke rape then come Friday or Saturday they’d walk over to the frat houses in super short skirts and low cut dresses. (Most of them were claimed they were raped on Monday, but be back there next Friday…disgusting)

Likewise we are told women don’t need men, ok, sounds good to me. But then the divorce comes rocking down and suddenly she is ‘entitled’ to half his wealth just for being with him the last year or two?

Why can a girl be direct about sex, and it makes her tough/empowered, but when a guy talks about it, he is a creep/loser/weird?

Girls can read fashion, gossip, celebrity news, and it doesn’t make them shallow, but if a guy likes the dress or makeup she learned to put on he is suddenly shallow.

Why do we have affirmative action for girls when they are supposedly equal to guys? Either you are not as good, and need an advantage or you are EQUAL like you tell us and do not need an advantage.

These are legitimate doublethinks (1984 term for holding conflicting positions) and I have had a LOT of feminists justify this stupidity to me.

But this entire society is an exercise in doublethink, where the rich are the jobcreators and us proles have to be content with ‘trickle’ down money, where America is the most free nation despite endless spying of its only citizens. So we continue to hand out gold stars to our grownup women celebrating their success, up is down, black is white, and everything you know is wrong.

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Even ‘smart’ people are subject to propaganda – often more so

I just got back from an old friends college graduation party, what was notable was my friend was substantially ‘smarter’ now, and could argue intelligently, but was still completely deluded in regards to propaganda we are fed, despite arguing coherently, he still believed things like the wage gap, and proceeded to lie himself into believing it was men’s fault.

First, I just recently read something (if anyone knows the source) but essentially the argument was that some study about so-called ‘smarter’ people actually fall for propaganda more deeply, I think this was in regards to feminism in modern day but the study was based on racist beliefs, but essentially that when propaganda was hoisted on the populace, ‘everyone’ would agree with the lies like ‘all man are potential rapists’ but in reality only the educated people BELIEVED it, whereas the uneducated had hard stereotypes they fell back on, regardless of what was professed.

I had never considered this specific angle but makes sense, if you are from the south, it doesn’t matter how much progressive ideology you are fed about races, you are still going to hate blacks, hate muslims, whatever. This is not important to the argument other than that they do NOT listen to the propaganda (whatever it may be) whereas the intellectuals WILL, because its ‘logical’ ‘smart’ ‘right’ etc. It ultimately comes back to ego, they are so progressive of course everyone KNOWS men rape etc. Ironic, because if they critically examined the past they would see how fast ‘obvious’ conclusions change.

Anyway to my friend, we went to highschool together, and he was a bit younger, and on the slow graduation path, back then he was not smart. I hadn’t seen him in like 3 years easy, he’s fatter now, but I was impressed with his ability to argue coherently. This was not a guy who was intelligent, rather he was made fun of for being dumb.

Now, as many of my readers may know, I graduated with a bachelors in environmental science, and despite the hard science training I had, I have not found a job in science (which I am totally skeptical of STEM short of about the xxEx until engineering gets overrun as well) anyway, I come down VERY hard on so-called intellectuals. I find it appropriate to delineate between true hard ‘scientists’ (biology, chemistry, math, physics, ecology etc) and everything else. That means I view psychology as a dangerous pseudo-science that has endowed a large portion of females with ‘oracles’ powers us mere mortals can’t comprehend. I do not consider philosophy, religion etc a REAL major, and this is the source of the disparaged intellectuals I slam. These are the pathetic humans that make the way into middle management or HR and fuck everyone else’s life because their own is a ruin they can’t comprehend.

My friend graduated in computer science, I would say that is a hard science, based on real facts, repeatable, etc. So far so good. We start talking about stuff and he start referencing google scholar, and ‘sources’, partly I like that instead of pure anecdotal evidence, (but I do not discount anecdotal at all) but the whole ‘source’ thing is very…hipster and intellectual. He mentioned something about the wage gap, and I was thinking ‘should I say something…or just let this go?’

But I was hear to spread the truth, and this was a situation it might find ground to grow.

‘The wage gap is a lie’ –Me

(Any new readers – start with this link [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 ] from a MAINSTREAM media, actually telling the heretical fact that young women make MORE than men. 5000$ for a 30k job, pretty fucking insane)

‘Not so! If you look at x y and z source women do indeed make less than men.’ –him

‘If you control for all factors that may be true, but it is deceptive – men work more and at higher paying jobs’ – me

‘that’s because women are told they aren’t good at math. According to study z women do worse when they think it’s a math test compared to a regular test’ – him

(quick aside, if you know anything about MBTI personality theory, hard defaulting to external authority is a J trait, most man-o-sphere writers are hard P, they question established doctrine)

‘It’s problematic man, we compare someone working more, at a higher paying job, and complain about the unfairness in the ‘wage gap’ ‘ – me

He proceeded to launch into…something stunning. He made the argument that we CONDITION girls to accept ‘subservient ‘ jobs like teachers because they aren’t ‘good’ at math. He was making the argument that sexism was so pervasive, that we were conditioning our poor girls to be 2nd class citizens, regulated to being a humble kindergarten teacher.

‘I got some serious problems with your argument man, you are acting like school teachers are powerless, I am going to counter that teachers have insane power. It is men who are the victims of sexism here, they are reared by women their entire school lives, told how bad they are as boys and those females teachers aren’t spouting anti-female rhetoric that’s for sure’ –Me

‘Oh, but they are, because teachers see the studies, they know other women can’t be good at math, so they subconsciously edge girls away from jobs that would earn them more.’ –Him

The conversation ended when someone else came up, but I was stunned that there was this self-flogging by a male FOR women. I have clearly seen this type of behavior before as nearly every pathetic ‘man’ who tries to woo women with his apologetic groveling, but to see it so indoctrinated, so researched, so…non-truth, non-reality being taken as reality, and some irreality being substituted in for what was ‘wrong’ with the situation.

It is a bit hard to describe the effect this had on me, because again, the self flogging is nothing new, but this was a whole new level. Its like if someone came up to me and painted this vast picture of history and science about how all men are actually gay…its like wtf!? How is this the conclusion!?

My point here is not to attack or flame my friend, I am simply stunned at the effectiveness of intellectualism in destroying actual intellect. It doesn’t matter that even a cursory search shows the wage gap is a lie, or how about the heretical (but true) reality that my generation (sub 30) actually fares WORSE as males then our female counterparts? We live at home far higher, unemployed far higher, and make less. Where the fuck is THAT dialogue? Oh, its not convenient, women are the only victims I forgot.

It is reasons like this I cannot ever believe main stream politics, as they sure as shit know the wage gap is a lie, but both parties shovel it out like some serious social crisis as if people were getting murdered in the streets it is so bad. Hey but that’s the whole point, if we fight for things that aren’t real, then real things go un-fought.