One thing I want to include off the bat, is it is interesting that a lot of the noveau-pua do not even call themselves pua, and pretend they are something different, I am talking about nearly every pickup blog that are proclaimed MGTOWs, heartitse and his ilk. Do they have great information that will help you get women? Without a doubt…but that is all it really is, something to feed an endless sexual addiction.
What is also interesting is that there is a VERY large hatred for MGTOW guys in this blogsphere, and if you think about it this hatred likely stems from subconscious inklings they either know we are right, or feel guilty they are not as discplined. Consider this as evidence: for all intents they SHOULD NOT CARE WE ARE ALIVE after all we both agree women are conniving bitches, that ‘confidence’ will get you laid, to not act like a chump, to not grovel, so in this regard we agree. Further, a lot of MGTOWs either completely pull out of the dating market, or partial pull out (the pull out method!) and for this reason alone the pua type should have no hatred because we are not even in competition with them!
Ahh…but wait…are we in competition? Think about this carefully, and the hatred for mgtow out of them all starts to make sense. For ‘not caring about women’ don’t puas – and remember I am talking about both old pua and the new pua that are the same general idea just dont call themselves that- dont these puas spend a LOT OF FUCKING TIME doing things to impress these girls they routinely shit on? They talk about ‘maximizing dominance’ and ‘raising testosterone’ and developing a ‘social style’ for what? Just to have some girls to fuck! They are slaves to the very thing they hate, and they can not see their own hypocrisy, they are as bad as the women they routinely bash.
Here is a way we are in competition, imagine a job setting, you have a real pua and a real mgtow, they each possess at least some level of social competence. The pua is going to be coming with style, and flirting etc…because he is a slave to his own sexual desire and is not even honest with himself. He combs his hair for ‘social dominance’ not linking it to just hoping some girl will take his dick. The mgtow is not, he does not give a shit. He does not GIVE A FUCK if that dumb whore at his work even notices him. Why? Because he lives for himself.
So at the office the girl is going to be getting lines from the pua like ‘you have a good face for bangs’ and the mgtow is not going to say anything. But you know what, there is beyond a 0% chance this girl becomes intrigued, why isn’t this guy like all the rest? She may even try flirting with him, and he will merely look at her with a ‘wtf are you doing?’ face and go back to whatever. Now the weekend is coming. pua: ‘I can tell by your athletic breasts you stay busy during the weekend, how about you come with me to john’s bar?’ Now, here I fully grant some girls will say yes. But some wont, some might go ask the quiet guy who just doesnt seem to care she is alive ‘hey, me and some friends are going out, do you want to come?’ mgtow ‘no (for added style he could just end it here) I am writing/rock climbing/ riding/ etc this weekend, bye.’
Because here is the irony…pua claim and claim ‘dont give a shit about the girl’ so they act like it…but they dont believe it. They can de-humanize the girl as much as they want into a walking pussy..but they like that pussy, so they need the girl. They are merely pretending they dont like her, because at its root they like at least one part of her. The MGTOW truly does not care, he does not have to ‘tell’ her this through negs or anything either. He doesnt need her for intellectual stimulation, and does not need her pussy, therefore she is useless to him, a true uselessness unlike the pua ‘claimed’ uselessness.
Who is the more ‘real’ person here, the guy claiming he is learning social dominance and hoops through all these hoops JUST TO GET A FUCK, or the guy who does not try to impress anyone and lives the life he wants? The guy more interested in having a build physique so he can attract girls or the guy who trains so he has strength for his own pursuits? The guy who reads ‘how to fuck a women in 1 hour’ pretending sex is not really his only measure of success, or the guy reading history or philosophy to see where we have come from?
I have heard the claim (most often leveled at men right activists – MRA) that ‘mgtow are just one girl/one blowjob/one sex away from being a pua’ I think this claim has some validity actually, but only for those guys that are not really mgtow, that they fell into the movement for the wrong reasons.
The few times I used my new found pua skillz to go hook up with girls it was…painfully easy, but you know what? I literally felt worse. I remember one girl who I had sex with for 4 hours, and man could she suck a mean one, after I left I was outside looking up at the sky and thinking ‘what the fuck am I doing with my life?’ A lot of people live lives of quiet desperation, and often this never surfaces beyond subtle cues in the brain, mainly because it is drugged into submission through drinking, sex etc. I am going to say it bluntly, in about 99% of times ‘social drinking’ is merely a fucked up social convention to universally hide everyone’s collective pain of misled lives.
Our lives are transient, so we want to convince ourselves there was some point or something mattered, it is so pitiful that a notch count is what guys go for – all the while claiming ‘its not what I really want’. Pitiful, but pathetic.
In retrospect it is obvious why puas would hate mgtow so much. MGTOW represent something the pua can never become – a real man. Someone that lives for his own purpose, not a purpose ultimately tied to fucking a girl.