Why Nofap is bullshit

First, as a disclaimer I think ‘fap’/fapping is a utterly stupid term, I am using it simply because that is the conventional internet word for it.  That being said, in case you don’t know what this is, it is a forced celibacy of refraining from sex – mostly from porn.

I have an interest in sex from a scientific point of view that is surprisingly lacking in the world, so have dove into this pretty hard with research and self-experimenting.

It has different levels of just no porn, or no sex at all etc.  The real mode is no touching/orgasm/porn at all.  It is claimed that after about 90 days you become human again, no more ED, you can talk to girls, you can get laid etc etc.

Now, here is where it gets tricky, because I definitely think that mass porn use can mess up your brain as well as imprint new fetishes (which makes me think being gay is much more of a choice than liberalism wants us to think) but there is a logical fallacy going on here, see if you can find it regarding the cures you susposedly get for your given up the habit.

This is a form of giving up control – and giving it straight to girls.  This is the darkest truth I have realized about this movement, (I don’t want to come off as pro-porn, but the alternative I think is worse) is that YOUR SEXUAL AND MENTAL RELEASE NOW COMES FROM A RANDOM JACKPOT OF A WOMAN.

You can read on reddit endless points of ‘finally got laid, IM CURED’ or ‘girl bumped into me, she knows how much man I am.’  This is blue pill noobery 101, where the girl is the sole arbitrator of reward and validation.  ‘You are not a loser jason, after all suzy touched you dick!’

This is hidden of course in all the talk of curing erectile dysfunction, ‘lower voice’, more muscles etc etc, but by and large the over-riding goal of having sex with a girl.  It is total anti-MGTOW style of that your loserness is only cured when you have blown a load into some whore you were desperate enough to convince.

I am harping on this a bit, but it is critical to understand how dangerous this underpinning of the goal is.  This is literally a clone of shaming that the highschool nerd would suddenly be acceptable if he had a girlfriend.  That the fapper is now such a man because he has got his little dick wet.

It is disgusting.  With modern girls endlessly capricious, slutty, diseased, ego whoring, flaky, and out right manipulative; signing up for a kibble of attention from them is the height of stupidity.

Heh…and I haven’t even got into the science behind abstinence, which unfortunately very sparse, there is the ‘famous’ china study of a 7 day temporary testosterone boost that goes away (small sample size also); and one that studied for a few weeks but had a lot of problems too.  THAT IS IT.  It is not conclusive one way or the other, that is a fact.

What is not debateable though is when as a man you give women the key to your validation you are in for a world of hurt.

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18 thoughts on “Why Nofap is bullshit

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  2. “which makes me think being gay is much more of a choice than liberalism wants us to think”

    actually, it’s nutty liberals and the weirdoes who attend the NPI convention that insist I find Bruce, err, “Kate” Jenner and a-MAN-duh Marcotte hawt. Ain’t gonna happen, just like I could not convince my dog that celery and carrots were a good substitute for steak…

  3. Just imagine if prostitution was legal, then for $100 or so, any guy could nail a hot chick. It would be about as much a bragging point as “I bought a new video game” or “I took myself to an amusement park.” That’s why both feminist’s and PUA’s are against it. It has nothing to do with “keeping womyn safe” or “morals.”

  4. Lifers in prison tend to follow a path. The progression takes decades. They begin by focusing on fighting and bodybuilding. Then they study law. Next, religion. After a long time, they turn to gay sex.

    Women have conned men, EK. They did it very well.

    Women need sex MORE than men. They don’t do it for pleasure. Women want sex because it validates that she is attractive and beautiful. The greatest insult a man can give is that a woman is unattractive to him.

    In fact, the man has all the power. His erection validates that she is sex-worthy. If he can’t get a boner, she isn’t sexy.

    It’s a great con. I admire it. Women have got men sweating over something which women need more than men – like its is a privilege to sleep with her.

  5. To “fap” is simply degrading…

    To “fap” to porn is even more degrading due a total lack of effort to even imagine the experience…

    The proper frame starts with a simple equation:

    Homo = same = EXACT SAME = self…

    Homo-sexuality is the sexual attraction to one’s self… To “fap” is to give existence to the homo-sexual “nature.” “Fapping” is the “purest” act of radical sexual autonomy (unhindered, unbounded, unregulated). To “fap,” in principle, is to self-annihilate.

    And it’s very simple… Where the incredible spiritual, intellectual and physical discipline required to obtain true celibacy maintains, nature runs its course for what amounts to the emotional need for a physical “fix.”

    “We” are immersed in a mass of de facto homos whose dissimulation on “fapping” must be carefully narrated for maximum return. A genuine wS then seeks to impose the Law of Diminishing Returns. Ergo, homo-sexuality is self-annihilation. This is akin to wS “gospel.”

  6. EK…

    The default assumption is all “movements” are controlled opposition ALWAYS proving otherwise. So the default assumption is a “no fap” movement ORIGINATING in a pro-homosexual ethos perpetrating what amounts to a reverse psychology. The aim being the normalization of homosexuality then the goal is to create an obnoxiously zealous “no fap” movement that makes “fapping” look normal by comparison.

    “Fapping” is self-annihilating, period. End of story. Everything else is just “creative” narrating.

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  8. I’m a NoFapper and have been for a couple of years…off and on. I’ve also been aware of the community of NoFap, but haven’t actively participated in the community in a while for the reasons you talk about. I think you’re on the right track, but the people you’re referring to are the “extremists” of NoFap. Like you, I have also done experimentation and my own little research; especially about ED. I won’t say that NoFap “cured” my erectile dysfunction, but it’s a possibility that my excessive porn use contributed to my erectile dysfunction. I’m not certain about it: the only thing that matters to me is that I get ED significantly less than I used to.

    I’m not justifying the extremist behavior, but I will say this: I’ve seen a lot of guys in the community join the community as virgins, or people that haven’t had sex in a long time. Losing your virginity, or having sex after a long period of time, isn’t the most amazing thing in the world…HOWEVER…for some people, it can start the ball rolling for self-improvement. I know that when I lost my virginity, WAY before I joined NoFap, it helped my self-confidence, which created a domino effect into the man I am today.

    I could go on all day trying to explain everything from a veteran NoFapper, but the main points are that even extremists are annoying to me, they exist in almost every moment of some kind (as far as I know), and there’s always more to the story than what you see. It’s a little bit more complicated than what you describe, I won’t say I completely disagree with you, but there’s a little bit more going on than what you may realize.

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