Is the military an enabler, or the last bastion?

I do not have all the answers, and this is a question that constantly plagues me as I see our society falling apart around us as relativism (of which my oft-written topic of feminism is a part of) destroys any semblance of truth.

The question is simple does the US military act as an enabler of our culture suicide, because we are defended so we are free to act our more fucked up proclivities to the natural conclusion of societal unraveling, or is the military the last bastion of better values, and an institution that will outlast the collapse of the US?

I am not in, I dont know, I can only speculate, I hope people with experience will comment.  I wrote about the increasing feminism in the military here (http://wp.me/p2YaVQ-7Z ) which is undeniable, and it gives credence more to the enabler part of the question.  At its root, all the gays, the trans, the fat bitchy feminists – all of them are defended by the military that they never had to join. (Mandatory military service is something I think we should have )

Further, the military increasingly acts as a corporate imperial conquering force.

It is rough, because at its root, the organization is something I would really behind (and I still occasionally think about joining, pending the resolution to this question) but as of now it is really tough to justify joining to defend the faggotry I see around me.

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14 thoughts on “Is the military an enabler, or the last bastion?

  1. A bit of both yet also neither, EK. The military is going to be a reflection of society to a certain extent. And Congress holds almost all of the strings, which is the biggest determinant for how the military is run. Political correctness is, in large part, the direct result of the beltway war (code for the battle regarding appropriations in funding the Pentagon receives).

    From my perspective military folks are more honorable as a general group than most, but my husband has been a reservist (TR) for the past couple of years and I know active duty has been in a downward spiral since we left. Morale is horrible, and things are beyond depressing. I wouldn’t recommend the military to anyone at present.

  2. BTW, I know a female commander who used to cry when she was debriefing after the pilot training exercises. Imagine a man crying during a training debrief…no one would ever place him in a command slot, that’s for sure! He’d have been the first to get RIFfed (military who lost their jobs during reduction in force cuts).

  3. Have I mentioned that they can’t even use the term ‘wingman’ to refer to an actual wingman in an official capacity anymore? It has to refer to each and everyone, in the context of sexual assault. No longer a job description…unfortunately there’s no word to replace wingman yet, so they have to describe the job on an OPR rather than just saying, “wingman”. It’s crazy.

    And cockpit is now the flight deck in civilian aviation (the military will embrace that one quickly too I’m sure).

      • I don’t think so, EK.
        I wouldn’t want my sons to join either (although they probably will).

        It’s hard to say. Kind of related: There’s a family from Czechoslavakia in the neighborhood. Really great people…the husband works in construction, they have three sons (the family kind of reminds me of ours, actually, except 1000 times more disciplined). The mom (very thin, blonde, lovely) homeschools her boys and wins marathons. For punishment, the boys do pushups and pullups like a military regimen and they have no television in the home, movie night is one night per month. The kids are really happy and well adjusted, and (obviously) in amazing condition. The guy is in amazing condition too. He was in the Czech military during the cold war, when it was really serious. I’m sure his military experience, to some degree, made him the person he is now, and by extension this reflects on the his family dynamic as well.
        Interesting reflecting on the fact that my husband and this man were on totally different sides at one point. He gave up a lot to come to America…big paycut, because he believes in this country. Still does. They’ve been here since the 90s.

      • Why would I let my kids in?
        When they become adults it will not be my choice.
        I can tell them what I think now, that’s all. They know I don’t want them to go the military route.

  4. I would warn you not to enlist. The US military is just another part of the pussification of America. It is NOT being used to defend America itself, as the free flow of millions of mud people and billions of $ of drugs back and forth across our borders shows.
    Since the end of WW2, it has been used to protect the decadent Western Europeans from the threat of the Russians and to protect the Japs and S Koreans from the Communist gooks, by permanently stationing hundreds of thousands of troops on their land and constantly patrolling their coasts with our navy. This is a great expense for us and a free ride for them. They haven’t had to maintain anything more than a token military of their own and even that is subsidized by us, by our selling them our top of the line weaponry below cost. Also since the 1990’s, it has been used to wage a never ending war of attrition against the sandniggers, which only serves the interests of the jes and Oil corporations.
    Unless you want to go to sandniggerland and get your legs and junk blown off and your brains scrambled by a bomb, or get court martialed for mistreating or killing the wrong sandnigger, don’t enlist in the Army or Marines. You don’t need to do that to get good with a gun or to go camping. You will NOT be turned into a “Rambo” by joining. In fact, unless you hope to make it in a hardcore unit like the Rangers, etc., you will not learn much at all about hand to hand combat or wilderness survival. Especially if you get conned into going into a technical field, thinking you will learn a real world skill for when you get out. In that case, you will get practically no hand to hand combat training and will only fire a rifle a few times every few months at the range to maintain a minimal proficiency in it’s use.
    When you get out, you will be unpleasantly surprised to find out that your recruiter lied, because corporate America and the higher education system does not recognize the few months of technical training you got years ago when you enlisted, as qualifying you in a related civilian job or equaling a related degree. You will still have to go to an actual school and get a real degree after having wasted all those years of your youth in the military.

    PS Saw you asking this question on Covington’s blog, be careful if you are going to get involved with him, he has a bad reputation and is considered a shady character by those in far-right pro-White circles.

  5. EK, I suggest contacting these folks with your questions:

    US Military Veterans of Columbia University: http://milvets.columbia.edu/

    They’re a student-veterans group of almost all young, recently enlisted war veterans. They’re smart – they are Ivy League students as well as vets, after all. Except for a few reservists and ROTC cadets, they’re no longer in the military, so they can speak freely on their fresh, insider’s perspective. And they do.

      • EK,

        Joining the service you mean?

        Disclosure: It’s been years since I interacted with them. The members I hung out with have graduated. I don’t know what current members think.

        To answer your question, the members I spoke with were proud of their service and viewed it as a constructive experience in and of itself. They were also glad to have done their time, left the service, and be at Columbia and moving on with their lives. A few had lasting physical injuries (including amputations) or PTSD, or both.

        We didn’t talk about the politics of the War on Terror, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. They traded ‘war stories’ and complained or made fun of this or that officer, sergeant, fellow trooper, incident, training hijinks, stupid policy imposed by DC that played at home but made their jobs over there harder, etc. A few talked about battles where friends died. If you just paid attention to the words (a lot of cussing), you’d think at times they hated the military. But if you looked at the change that came over their eyes, body language, the clip of their voice, etc, they came alive. The vibe was strong. Sharing their experiences with war vets who ‘got it’ seemed like reconnecting with something fiercely vital for them.

        I don’t know whether that something is good or bad, but they shared it. Most people – like me – can’t understand it. Not due to anything they said, but I came away feeling like I was a free rider while they had paid for their tickets, if that makes sense. Maybe it’s just me, but there does seem to be something about military service that’s not part of ordinary civilian life.

        The caveat, and veterans say this, is that opinions and experiences vary by a lot. I just happened to hang out with combat vets that included Army Rangers. They were smart, aware guys who were good at what they did, and proved it. I’m sure not all veterans are like that.

        Contact them. They were open back then, and probably still are unless close-minded assholes are running the group right now. (Student leadership can vary a lot, year to year.)

        A few 1st hand accounts, somewhat dated by now, are here:
        http://columbiamilvets2005-2006library.blogspot.com/#josh (see links to e-mails and dispatches sent from Iraq)
        http://columbiamilvets2005-2006library.blogspot.com/#chaplain (see speeches by Afghanistan vets Julia and Oscar)

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